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This is Last per Minute, where we serve up hot takes on comedy legends and rising stars. Every episode features a different guest deigning to be armchair critics with us, Brian and Yet. Strap in and we butcher callbacks to our comedy heroes. So say hi, Brian.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Hello. I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Great. Glad to hear it. We also have with us Christy Fitzpatrick. Christy graciously invited herself to be on our podcast after we put the call out for people interested in guests. We met her through Toastmasters. Christy, if I've got it right, you've been a Toastmaster for about nine years now. Yes. Great. And uh she owns and operates CAN Coaching. That's a CAN with two Ns and one C. In that she's a communication leadership. Um she's owning and operating that for the last four years serving individual and corporate clients. And she coaches and presents the art of effective speaking. And who is it that you selected as our comedy hero today, Christy?

SPEAKER_03 1:22

It was really hard to narrow it down, but I did choose Leanne Morgan.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Nice. Um and Brian, what do you know about Leanne?

SPEAKER_02 1:33

I know a little bit. And that the the thing about it is when Christy first actually selected this person, I went and looked her up, and really there was a moment where I said, okay, I think I've seen this person. And then I played a couple of YouTube shorts and things like that and realized, oh yeah, I've seen this person. But I have never I had never seen one of her specials or anything longer than just a short form few jokes, things like that. Obviously, she has a very distinct accent, uh, which is which is the the Knoxville way, uh, where she's from. And um, and we learned very, very quickly in this special that she has that it's her second special, and she's thanking the audience for watching the first special. Um, and then uh she also has a uh a show, actually, and Christy was just telling me about this a minute ago, um, a show that is on Netflix now that's uh episodes. So it's it's uh you know multiple um episode or episodic show. And uh tell so tell us a little bit about that, Christy. Is she is it a is it a show based on her life or is it is it a you know is it comedy show? Is it how how what what would you say it is?

SPEAKER_03 2:51

It's definitely a comedy. It is based loosely on her life. She has three children in real life, she has two children on the show. In the show, she's divorcing or going through a divorce. She's not doing that that I know of in real life, but the characters are kind of based uh on her family. And so I would say it was definitely based on her on her stand-up and on her personal life.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Yeah, yeah, and that makes a lot of sense considering a lot of the bits. Actually, I'll say I venture to say all the bits are that she has, all of her material is her family. Um overwhelming majority of it at least. And uh husb the husband gets a uh the brunt of quite a few things, which is fun.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Easy, easy material.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Exactly, exactly. I was yeah, I believe me, we'll get into it. Um being a husband myself, you know. Um but yeah, it's it's uh so the the the special that we are uh gonna be evaluating is her current most recent one on Netflix called Unspeakable Things. And um, I didn't get when when this actually came out. I think it was this year though, like 2025.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

2025, yes, it is.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Yeah, so so this is this is really recent, fresh material for her. Um, and uh I feel like she's I I don't want to say up and coming, but like when you get one next like special and then a second one, and then you get a series, I feel like okay, the the careers, the careers take. And then obviously she does mention move, you know, working in movies all as well. So she's uh I'm sure all the work that she's put in is now coming to fruition um, you know, over all the things. So um so so I guess let's just get right into it and talk about uh the first couple of things on our um podcast evaluation form, talking about the comedic style and the subject matter. Um I'll I'll pass it to you, Christy, and say what did you have there uh in terms of what what styles she uses in her special?

SPEAKER_03 4:59

Well, she's obviously a storyteller, because that is she's talking about her life, and I also checked observational. That was really the only two that I could could qualify her uh with the main one being a storyteller for sure.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

Yeah, absolutely. Nick, what do you got?

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Um I'd I'd say the same. I think there are she she lightly dabbles, like she's tipped her toe into some things that's I wouldn't say it's her style, right? But like she she kind of did a little bit of improv or at least seemed to do a little bit of improv or crowd work at the beginning when she talked about like darling gay men, and then she gestured a guy in the crowd, like whether he was really there or not, she she did a good job making it look like it was improvisational. Um and then even a bit of kind of character physical comedy, like she moved the body cool for sure, yeah. Great facial expressions, you know, imitate certain people in her story, but that's just part of her storytelling, right? Um, so definitely but back to the thing, like I really only checked storytelling and um observational.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Yeah, I had her, I had the same thing, and I did I did do the same thing that you said, Nick, just a little bit of physical comedy there. Um, you know, not really honestly, it's sort of like uh what we talk about in Toastmasters with just gestures and things like that that are appropriately timed. And in her case, add to the joke, add to whatever she's trying to do. And so it's not because she could just say the joke, but that facial expression comes out, and she's that you know, and then also the great thing was, and we'll get into more into this later, but you know, obviously in the editing, it edits it so that that facial expression is like she's staring right into the camera. So like it just happens right when she makes that facial expression, that camera, she's dead on, and it's it's uh very good for the audience at home that is gonna be watching this on Netflix. So um, so yeah, but her facial expressions are top-notch. I I really like I really like some of the ones that she made. So um and then uh I'll st I'll start with the subject matter. Obviously, I have uh her personal life um is a major uh major part of that. I think she did a little bit of pop culture as well, um, talking about Reese Witherspoon and talking about um J Lo's husbands and you know, all of the things that J Lo husbands joke was great. She went through the whole succession of that. But um, and then uh I put ethnic cultural, and I don't mean that in like you know, an ethnic like I I what would I say is she uses a lot of um references to like the Lord and the that she's I think I feel like they're a Christian family, and um and so she references that quite a bit, and that comes out in the overall um I say the overall you know set, and but she also is um you know explicitly saying that as well. So what about you?

SPEAKER_03 8:09

Oh sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

No, go ahead, Christy.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

I I had the same thing, personal life and pop culture as well because of the references that she made. I mean, really her whole stick is her personal life and telling those stories about that and taking a situation that maybe occurred in three minutes, but taking six or eight minutes to tell about it and drilling down on the details and the specifics and taking us in that moment.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

You referenced Toastmasters. Well, we do that a lot in Toastmasters, taking someone in that moment, painting a picture with words, yeah, bringing us there. And I think that is something she does very well with her personal stories, personal life and pulp culture, definitely. And I didn't have the ethnic ethnic cultural, but I agree with you that I could have like at least put a half check mark there for sure on that one.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

It didn't quite fit, but I just I I wrote a I draw drew an arrow to religion. So like, you know, uh basically like talking about um and it and it wasn't it wasn't a I mean it wasn't uh directly associating, it was just infused into the material, you know? So anyway.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

And I'm glad she wasn't afraid to put that in there. Yeah, sometimes today that's something that you don't even want to go near. So I appreciated that.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

That's one of the things I'm gonna talk about later potentially, is just how she is different than many comedians, and um and she's not afraid of that. I think she's obviously, you know, everybody is is making their own niche uh for their audience. Um, but um, but also if I think if you're in that position and you're being disingenuous, then people are gonna know that immediately. And I I feel like Nate Bargatszi or you know, Leanne Morgan, I feel like they're just being themselves and they're being a genuine article, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

That's great.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

What do you got, Nick?

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Um same same as you all. I also checked the ethnic slash cultural and I I just put Christian women. Yeah. Like there was definitely Christianity at play, you know, she talked about bless your heart and getting prayed for, and uh, but also things like IUDs and being a soccer mom, driving like be doing unspeakable things for her husband, you know. So yeah, that hence the name of the the special. Uh so I I I think that was part of her, like it just kind of goes right into the personal that she is a Christian woman, so her material is gonna be rooted in that. Yeah. And like she wasn't like preachy about it or anything. Yeah. I think the like the closest to being preachy in this is a stretch would be when she um you know wishes that for all everyone that they get a meatloaf to help them recover from their IUD replaces.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

That bit, that bit was a good bit. I'll I have to like that, even though like I don't, you know, obviously have no experience in having an IUD, but um, but the the fact that they created a meal train and stuck in the ring.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

I just wanted to make sure you gentlemen knew what that was. Oh yeah, I would bring it out. Yeah, yeah. Okay, you're good.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

I'm I'm aware of what it is, but I like to what extent it's invasive.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Also the comedic timing that she had where she said I like specifically, she said, yeah, and they brought me a meatloaf. And then there was a pause, and then she goes, and it was a good one, you know. I thought that was hilarious anyway. Um so yeah, uh I think that oh that the thing that uh also in this uh Nick, this might be an a subject matter or um you know category that we might want to apply or we might want to include in this is gender-based. Um because there are because I think a lot of in like you know, is that some people are I mean, just like there can be male, you know, very and in some cases very misogynistic, very male-based comedy. Um, like if you went to their shows, it would be 80% like young boys or something like that, you know. Um, I think same thing on the other side is like, and I think you mentioned this before, Christy, is you know, she she has potentially a very specific audience, you know, but she's on Netflix, so there's a large enough audience, you know, there's enough people out there that it that that this, you know. You know, go ahead, Nick.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Either way you talk about it, we're talking about broad appeal.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Well, you either talk to the middle-aged woman or the husband that lives with the middle-aged woman.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

You've got that, you've got that covered. She does make a lot of references that are age related. Yeah, she talked about Ricardo Montebon. Who in the heck?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Oh my gosh, who that is? Yes, exactly. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

De pay, depending. You know, you gotta know. I mean, I I watched that when it was you know live on the no reruns back in the 80s, late 70s, early 80s, whenever it was. Yeah, so they there's a there's an age group for that for sure.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think um, yeah, those references were uh sometimes I'm like, oh man, nobody's made a reference like that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

So nobody knows who John Wayne is, but sort of Montebond's a little more specific.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

Yeah, I I grew up hearing my parents make reference to the plane boss, the plane. Oh yes, you know, and I would repeat it, but I had no idea where it was.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

What it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yeah, what it was. Um like what is that like ink historical pop reference, pop culture?

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Like right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

Yeah, it was popular culture at one time. Historic pop culture.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

I would say it's like zeitgeist or something, because it's like technically like if you were in that era, like everyone knows, like if you just say diplane, diplane, you know, like you're gonna know that.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

So you've heard it somewhere, whether you you know it personally or not.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Right, right, exactly. Yeah, let's uh let's start with the uh first category, the laughs per minute, the big one, really. I don't know why we put that as number one. Shouldn't this be like the last one that we talk about? I guess not.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Anyway, we we could spend like a whole episode.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

No, actually, what really what Nick wanted to say is Brian, you made the scorecard. So it's your fault if it's wrong. Anyway, um let's uh Christy, so tell tell us what you thought. That's just sort of uh loosely like how frequently did the comedian generate laughs, um, what did it feel like uh in terms of laughs per minute?

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Uh I thought it was steady. Uh I put it at an eight, but I maybe maybe put it at a seven, eight. Uh just it was pretty steady. There were some some lull moments because these stories sometimes take a while to tell, but sometimes you'll catch someone that that heard it and is just catching up with it and laughing kind of out of turn, you know, out of turn, so to speak. But yeah, I gave it a I gave it an eight, I would say seven, seven or eight. Pretty steady.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Excellent.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Nick Yeah, pretty close to the same. I put six. Um you know the form says for six, uh, some laughs inconsistent delivery delivery, but I think I read that more like inconsistent uh laughter. Yeah. And it's sort of back to what you were saying, Christy, about just the um people having to catch up to the joke or people laughing out of turn. Like there was one moment where it seemed like even she was a little surprised that people were laughing at that moment, and it was like something was funny that to them. Yeah, that I don't know, I didn't quite catch it, and she didn't seem to quite catch it, but they all laughed, so I don't know how to score that.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

It's like a like a woman like a Wilmington, North Carolina inside joke or something, you know?

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Like yeah, she was definitely speaking to her audience there for sure.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Um, yeah, I gave I gave her a six there, and this one's hard for me because of what we just talked about, which by their very nature, storytelling comedians are gonna have lulls. They're just no, you can't tell stories and be a long-form storytelling type comedian and have it be funny throughout. It just isn't it's it's I mean, it's uh really, really very similar to if you want to think of her entire set as being a series of five to seven minute humorous speeches that we would give in Toastmasters, it's like that. Like you're not gonna get laughs throughout an entire humorous speech, but you're hoping to get a few big pops, you're hoping to get a couple of giggles here and there, um, things like that. And uh, and I think she did that, you know. Um, and so I'd say she's probably between a six and a seven for me.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Um so oh, don't say six, seven. I can hear between three teams. I know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

I didn't even realize that I did that, and that's terrible. I didn't mean to do it because I would have avoided it at all costs.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Right. The more we talk about it, the less they'll use it. The less that is true.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

That is true.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

So back back to you, bro.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

Okay. So uh so let's talk about the content quality. Um, so how well written were the jokes and stories? So um, Christy, we'll start with you on that one.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

Honestly, I'd give it a six because only because it's you know, may of course you can elaborate on true life and make it funnier than it actually is. Uh some originality with it by being creative with with a real life story, hopefully. Uh, but I gave it a six.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

Okay. How about you, Nick?

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Seven for me. Um I think it was and and maybe that's bleed over from her delivering, which we we've all already sort of started to allude to that she has great timing delivery. Um and if if the if the writing was only mediocre or adequate, she made up for it in the way she told us big time. And yeah, so I I I guess I gave her bonus points for that. I I didn't even notice if this if the writing was mundane just because the delivery was so good.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

Yeah. I I also gave it a seven uh or gave this this section a seven. And I think that she has strong writing, definitely strong delivery. I think also that um obviously the material is very particular to her, you know, very specific to her. Um and but there are other comedians that talk about their families and have like jokes about their siblings and or kids or wives or things like that. Um but I also think, again, I feel like many things can go wrong if you're trying to tell a story that you think is funny and you can't get people to laugh at it. And she definitely did not have that happen.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

So um that was a few too many negatives for me to keep track of. What did you just say? I don't know. I can't I can't go back to it. I just capable at not avoiding the lack of laughter.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

Once it comes out of my mouth, it's gone, Nick. Okay, that's it. That's all I'm telling you, okay?

SPEAKER_00 20:05

Okay. I'll just I'll rewatch it, I'll re-listen to the episode. It's it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Um all right, so here's here's where we have had some some discussion performance and delivery. So, how effective was the comedian's stage presence and delivery? Let's uh you want me to start on this one? I haven't started yet. I'll do uh so I I gave her a seven. I think she's really confident. She's not she didn't move around the stage very much. I mean, she was right next to that stool and she had her cough drop and she had her glass of water, her Reese Witherspoon glass of water and her uh Mark Anthony Mark Mark Anthony cough drop, you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Um all this out of context. I know, yeah. It's great.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

Uh but uh but you know, besides that, I mean she's clearly experienced in what she's doing it and has stage presence um and uh is you know confident in her material, confident in her delivery. But I also think that goes back to what I said is that she's she's herself, she's being herself up there. She's she's not playing a role or acting like someone else. So all right. Who else?

SPEAKER_03 21:21

I'll go next up. I gave her an eight, just because I have seen a lot of her material. She's not like a Larry the Cable guy where this is a stage voice and this is a persona. Right. This is her. I've seen her do videos where she's done little uh videos where she's had to cancel a performance because her parents or her dad or her mom were in the hospital and she needed to tend to them and she had to cancel a performance, and and she's sending those messages out to her fans and just saying, you know, I'm so sorry my little daddy is in the hospital or My little mama. And you know, she just herself. And and I think she leans into that, I'm sure, a little more than than she would if she was just talking normal. But she's not a she's not a character, I'll say. She is herself. And she is confident in who she is. So I gave her an eight in that category.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

That's awesome. Nick? I gave her a nine. Like I I didn't even consider the fact that she didn't really move around on stage. Um I think either between the camera work or because of the camerawork, that might be why she stayed like in place is that so the camera knew exactly where to zoom in to get that timing that you talked about where she could, you know, look at the camera briefly or make the take and get back to it. But even so, like I guess just she seemed so comfortable and her timing was I don't know, I just I was really impressed with her timing. Um just those the the way she paused was the perfect timing to like build anticipation. Even if I knew what she was gonna say, it was so satisfying to hear her say it.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Right.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

You know? Um, and then even more satisfying when she said something slightly different than what I expected, and the surprise and delight. So just yeah, um, in terms of timing and delivery, I was really impressed.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Yeah, that's awesome. Nice. Um audience engagement. Uh Christy, you want to start there? Uh, did yeah, did the comedian connect well with the audience?

SPEAKER_03 23:38

I gave her a three. She knew her audience. She was in North Carolina. She, you know, they're similar to her where she grew up and so forth. Uh, I think uh if she was in New York City or LA, that'd be totally different. I don't even know if she does those arenas, does that that uh part of the country, but I gave her a three for audience engagement. I did like the few little times that she did kind of wink at the audience. Uh I think you you nodded to that, Nick, in the beginning about pointing out somebody in the audience. And and I truly, as I know about these kind of things and how you perform, she's, you know, maybe she saw somebody that she thought was maybe in that kind of a situation, but I know that she's gonna do that regardless, whatever city she's in. She's gonna find somebody in the audience and kind of wink to them. So I thought her audience engagement was was pretty good. It wasn't any kind of interaction by any means. Uh, she really was just performing for the audience. There was no interaction besides that little nod and wink and so forth, but I gave her a three on on audience engagement.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Makes sense. I gave her um I gave her a four, uh, mainly because uh she did engage the audience a little bit. I think also the audience was very invested in what she was doing. Two things on this, I thought uh the um the reference she made to men in the audience, I thought was very good. At the very beginning, she said, Oh, look at all these cute men, these cute men from Wilmington. And you could be home watching baseball, but you're gonna hear about uh me retaining fluid and my breasts, and yeah, and and that was that was very well placed because at the very beginning she acknowledges like, hey, I'm a woman, I'm talking about woman stuff. Yeah. And that uh so I know you guys are here and they're laughing along with it, but it it was almost like a little acknowledgement of you know very true.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

Yeah, and if there's time, I'll talk about my reflex.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Yes, exactly, exactly, which was great. Um, and um now that I said two things, I can't remember what the second thing was. So um I'm trying to see if it'll come back to me. I don't know. It was about the audience. Um can't remember. Sorry, guys. Um I give it a four out of anyway, a four out of five on that. So um, how about diversity of material?

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Well, you know, did we get you, Nick, on audience? Okay, let's not skip anybody.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Um I'm overlooked, it's fine. Sorry, sorry, Nick.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

So yeah, out of five. I had given her a two, but you all talked me up because I'm I'm thinking of ways to help make your points as well, and you like you've convinced me. Um so I'm I'm bumping it up to four out of five. The and I think really it was the two out of five that I have is kind of like a stand-in for the lightness of laughter that we've already sort of talked about, how it's just a consequence of storytelling, you know, that you have to sort of work for the laugh and it's bigger payoff and whatnot. Um but I think her waving at the imaginary or real gay guy in the audience helped um what's the word prevent, I guess, any like judgment or assumption or backlash for when she started talking, g sharing her religious perspective. Yeah, but like it's weird to have the signal, like it's like yes, I'm a Christian, but I'm you know I'll put an air quote to cool Christian. Um there's all there's a great rainbow diversity spectrum of you know kinds of Christian, and she kind of gave a signal that, like, hey, I'm this is part of my life, but I'm not judgmental, you know. Yeah, um that's a great point. The her and another way she ingratiated herself to our audience was her at the start, she used the word beautiful a lot.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

I was gonna say that. This is it it goes right into what that my other point was. I remembered what it was when you were talking. So I figured it'd remind you. Finish yours.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Go ahead.

unknown 28:07

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

No, I just I thought it was refreshing the positivity because she was talking about all she she made references to places that she had been, like Los Angeles, and she went to this town, and all the towns were like, oh, this cute little town, and that's a great and I know some of those towns, and they're not cute, you know. They're I I So it was a bless your heart thing. Well, I'm just saying there's nothing special about some of the places that she mentioned, but she was very positive about it, and and um, you know, basically talking about that, like you say, use using the word beautiful and oh, look at these cute people in the audience. Oh, you guys look great, and and it was it didn't feel like pandering, it felt like you know that she's a genuinely positive person. Um and uh you know, I just I just felt that from sort of the beginning, and I think that's one way to get the audience on your on your side in anything is like like I said, audiences don't like to be pandered to, but if they feel like you're being real with them and that you're being nice and good and the compliments are genuine, then everyone is uh more likely to get on board.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

So yeah, and and when that same courtesy she gave to those other places she visited, she gave to Wilmington, North Carolina. That's repetition she named. Like we we know where she was because she's such a few years. Yeah, she named it several times, right? Um and that and that's of course it that's that's like this you know, in uh how when friends and influence people said that the the sweetest sound to anyone's ears is their own name. Well, the second sweetest sound is gonna be where they're home town, yeah. Right. Yeah. Um so yeah, I think that was a good way to engage the audience.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

So you want to get an audience to woo, then you'll you'll mention the name of their city, you know? Yeah. That's so how about diversity of material? Uh did the comedian cover a range of topics?

SPEAKER_03 30:09

Christy, you want to uh I we didn't have a 0.5 on any of these. I was gonna say 2.5. I gave her a three because it really was about her family mostly and interactions with her daughter that is her full-time makeup artist and so forth. So there wasn't a lot of variety, but within those topics, I think it kind of spanned different things. But I I gave her a three, but I really wanted to do a 2.5.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Yeah. There's no rules. You can do that. It's it's perfect, perfectly okay. Nick, what about you?

SPEAKER_00 30:45

I also gave her a three. Um, in part because I didn't I didn't really notice. I think I don't know, maybe there was once or twice where I felt like the topic was kind of tired is too strong a word, but just well used. But then she would tell another story and it was like, oh, that's really good. Or like it it re it re-engaged me even though it was the same topic. It wasn't any diversity of material. So um somehow there was some kind of variety that came to my attention, even though like yeah, Christy said it it's kind of the same theme.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

I think uh were you done? Okay. So yeah, I gave a three, um, a three out of five. Um, I'm probably with you, Christy, but probably a little bit, maybe slightly lower than that. But I will say the times that she either did something that was slightly different. So, like my my example story is the one that I think I laugh the most at, which should tell you something about my sense of humor, is that when she's talking about the skiing and her daughter stripping down all her clothes, and then there's just a pause and she's like, What are you doing? She's like, My butthole itches, you know, like which is which is really funny because if she was talking about an adult, you'd be like, eh, you know, but she's talking about a little kid, and we know little kids say the darnest thing. So um, but I thought I thought like when she did that, that was like almost a little bit out of character from a lot a lot of the other stories that she had told, almost a little bit risque, slightly. And I think that um I think it hit, you know. I think like the you know, in terms of the diversity of material, like when she did something that was a little bit different, like you said, if it was a a one-note kind of thing, when's when something sort of strayed out, you were like, oh, like at least for me, it it was a a much more uh impactful bit, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

So particular to that joke, like I I thought that was the end of it when she says my my butthole bitches. You can't even say it's really I I had to I had to force it out. I yeah. I mean, yeah, because yeah, butt itches, you just say, okay, there's scratches buttons, right? But she's right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

She narrowed it down. She narrowed it down for us.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

You know, the spinkhole. Uh but but there was like there was so much laughter, you know. She's sitting there with so all the laughter at at the dot quote, the butthole itches, that again she has that perfect timing and she waits for the down. She waits for them to be ready to hear what she has to say next, and she's she just goes, scratch it.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Scratch it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Which made it two and a half times more funny, right? Right. For me anyway.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

Yeah, so I thought, like I said, overall the diversity was you know relatively low, like you, like we said, two and a half out of five. But I think when she did something that was slightly different, then it was you know, it was clearly different. Um, so yeah. Uh how about impact and memorability? Uh was this performance one that sticks with you? Christy? Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

I think I know Christy's answer because she suggested the comedian, but well, I did say seven, uh-huh, but it really is because she's in my genre. Her and I are from the same generation. She's five years older than me. So I've a lot of her references and so forth stuck with me. Also being a parent of three children, a lot of her references. Now I've never had a kid stripped down on a bunny slope or on the ski lift and need to scratch themselves. But you know, there's a lot of other things uh that I re that I related to. So it made it memorable to me. But I think in general there wasn't a lot of things if I was to repeat something, you know, and I know that we'll go over that here a little bit later, but yeah, it was just really a lot of storytelling. If you asked me to tell a story, right now it would be that with the the itchy butthole thing, but that's only because we're talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Uh, but I gave her seven out of ten for impact and memorability.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Yeah. Nick, what about you?

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Uh six, some standout moments, six out of ten. Um yeah, and it it's I'll probably remember more now having talked about it. Yeah. Um but yeah, otherwise it it would have been kind of another Netflix special in one ear, not the other. Yes. Get get the laughter's the best medicine and move on, you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

I think I gave a seven as uh there, and I will say that um for me, this is more, it's not a and we'll get again, we'll get to retellables later, but um, it's these are not type the type of jokes that you would retell. Like it would get lost in the mix if you tried to it's too long, it's too you were like you done well, and then I saw this comedian, and she was telling a story about her family, and it was it just you can't, it doesn't translate, right? Yeah, and so remember that time exactly. I do think that reminiscing by yourself, like you're gonna think of these stories and laugh, or at least get like a positive feeling, like, oh man, that was a funny story. Like, and so I I feel like that warranted some kind of um memorability because there I I feel like I'm gonna remember the stories, I just don't know that they're like retellable or like retellable, yeah. Exactly. So that's why I gave a seven. All right, next one is use of callbacks. I'll start with this one because I was talking to Nick actually before you came on, Christy, and um she's she used quite a bit of quite a few callbacks, and and I told Nick the way that I knew is because I watched part of this by myself, and then I watched the second half of it, like I watched about half of it, and then I watched the second half with my wife, and she was watching it, and so she was coming in in the middle. So I found myself having to explain some of these punchlines or pre-punch lines because they were callbacks to earlier jokes. And I was like, Oh, that was the thing that she said earlier about, and then I and I couldn't explain it. So it was sort of like what I was just talking about. I couldn't go through the whole story, but I would say, oh, that's a callback to a previous joke, and I would just leave it at that. So um I did give her a four out of five. Um, I get I thought they were very well executed and well placed. How about you, Christy?

SPEAKER_03 37:30

I gave her a three. I there was just a handful of them. Uh in other comedians that I follow or watch, I've seen them used a little more effectively, but I she did have some. The Mark Anthony, as we mentioned, was one of them. There was a few others in there. Uh but I gave her a three for the use of callbacks. There were a few in there, and they were used effectively when they were used, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

How about you, Nick?

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Uh I gave her a three out of five as well. I caught the I I like to write them down when I notice them because I'll forget otherwise. Um she made reference to the big head little legs a couple of times. Yes. And and I think there was an interesting way she sort of strung that together because you know, she she started out her joke was you know, lots of actors when she saw the actors for the movie that she was in with Will Farrell and Reese Witherspoon. Um she said, All these actors, these male actors have these big heads and little legs.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

Tom Cruise and she listed some others, including Mark Anthony. Um and then her she made some kind of callback to Mark Anthony, but strung it back to Big Head Little Eggs. She's like, she even said, Remember, Big Head, Little Eggs, remember.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

Um and then later, almost kind of a a callback to the callback, she said this cough drops the size of Mark Anthony. Um which was a lot funnier than me saying that now. Like it's like, okay, how is that right? How is that even funny? Like she made it work. I know. Um I I thought that there was a kind of a really subtle callback to her mentions of California early on and talking about how beautiful these different places were. Then later she said that she was as fertile as the Nepa Valley, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Uh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

I don't I don't know if that was maybe I'm just looking for callbacks that aren't there, but um it was a subtle one if it was one. That's all I counted. Or three, three and a half.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

They were I like I said, I think well effect they were effective and well placed. Um all right. How about style quality? How effective was the comedian's style?

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Um, Christy, you want to go? This would be our assessment of storytelling and observational.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

I guess, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

Style, I gave her an eight. I think she knows herself, she knows her accent, she knows her audience, and I think she plays to that in a in a in a non uh impersonal way. I think she's very personable. I think she's authentic in the way she delivers. So her style, I gave her an eight out of ten. Her style, style quality.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

Excellent. Nick?

SPEAKER_00 40:38

Uh well, same, same line. So that's the they did an awesome job. I just update the seven instead of the eight.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

And I gave I gave her an eight as well. Uh I feel like, again, going back to her being sort of the genuine article, and I'm sure she's developed her her persona, her material over many, many years. Um, but I also don't think it's a like I don't think it's a departure from who she is. I think it's more of like it like you mentioned it before, Christy, an embracing of who she is, and um, and just letting that come through her material. And uh, and so I think, you know, I think she did a great job at that. And, you know, it's uh it was a fun watch. I mean, uh because of that, I think.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

I've I've said this about Toastmasters and particularly table topics. Like she's she's mastered that art of being authentic and interesting. Because so many times people could talk about their trip to the soccer game as a soccer mom, and that would be authentic, yeah, right? But it might not be interesting, yes, and and there's there's that balance there, and and she seems to just walk that line very well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

Well, and yeah, one I guess one last thing too is it it come going back to like the the genuine uh you know, her being genuine and also her I guess being true to herself is that how many other comedians have you seen that actually bring their family out on the stage at the end? I haven't seen that ever. I've never seen that. I'll say Nate Bargatszi has lots of stories about his kids and his wife, and he he hasn't done that. And so you've got that, and then to to put pictures of really a lot of these pictures were referencing the stories or were you know tied to the stories that she just went through. So if you watch the credits at the end, you were getting like, oh, like that was real. Like when you have the daughter that's standing in an AYSO uniform holding a soccer ball, it's like she wasn't just acting like she's a soccer mom and saying that as a a term of art, like, oh, I'm a soccer mom. Like, no, she was like, No, I really was taking my kids to soccer practice, you know, that they didn't want to go to, you know. Yeah. So um so anyway, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

I will mention just just something that I related to her. I have three children, and there's one of them I'm deafly afraid of. They're all three adults. But I have a daughter, I have two boys and a daughter. She's got two girls and no son, but I've got an adult daughter that I'm definitely afraid of. Yeah. You know, her looking behind stage disease, yeah. Never make my daughter my makeup artist. We would yeah. And and the thought that she that her daughter wanted to slap her teeth out after so many weeks never being on the road. Oh my gosh, I get so relate. We would never even be in that position because my teeth would have already been slapped out.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

It was the best, too. We're just talking about the Apple Watch and that you she could like she's like using the thing. And she's like, Stop beeping that Apple Watch. Your phone is in your lap, you know, like

SPEAKER_03 44:00

That was two days ago for me.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

That was hilarious. That was really, really good. Um, but yeah, it's that I I agree. That's uh, you know, basically like a a testament to the whole thing. Um all right, let's talk about timing and pacing. Was the pacing effective for the for humor delivery? Um, I'll start with this one. So I I thought she had, we've already talked about it, strong, well-timed delivery. I think she has mastered the art of the pause. I think she intentionally isn't walking around stage for whatever reason. I think that's it's not necessary. It's a distraction to her stories.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

It's not little pacing back and forth, Brian.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Well, I mean like moving around the stage. And there's a there believe me, I've seen comedians' specials where they're all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

They're like ping pong mats.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

Right. And and sometimes it's okay, sometimes it's not. But uh, but in her case, she stood and delivered for basically an hour.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

Which is in ideals, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Yes, just so you know, yeah. She has strong, she has strong ankle, she can work the field, you know. I just sorry, some of these things I was I was laughing. And my laugh, my my wife was laughing as well, which just a lot of times that's my my wife sometimes is easy to get her to laugh, sometimes not, but like stand-up comedy, it's hit or miss, and she actually was audibly laughing at a lot of these things. So um, I think it's because we came in, I think we came in in the IUD bit. So like I think that's that's where literally where we started. So I think it I think it caught her attention right away, you know. So um uh oh, did we all do that one? We all got to do that.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

No, I'll go next. Uh I put a four that it was strong and well-timed. Absolutely. The purposeful pause is so important. You have to let the audience absorb what you're saying, you have to let them think, you have to bring them into you you do all this work to bring them to the moment and then you rush through it. Yeah, that doesn't work. You have to have the pause, and I think that she does do a good job of that. Maybe she could do a little better, but we could all do that. I gave her a four out of five as far as timing and pacing. Uh, there's a couple other things that I would improve on for her that I'll mention later, but then I give her a four out of five.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

All right. This this episode brought to you in part by Can Consulting.

SPEAKER_03 46:43

Yeah, I need to email her.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Right. Well, no, like there's there was just a moment where I could like I could see you in your consulting mode right then, like talking about the importance of pauses. And um, I I gave her this is I think the first time I've given a perfect rating. I gave her five out of five. Nice, nice, good job, maximized humor. Um the the joke I was trying to interrupt with or interrupt with you, Brian. Yeah, was you talked about pacing, but also that she was standing still, and I'm like, we're not talking about literal pacing back and forth. We're talking about yeah, um, but now I'm explaining my jokes. You also brought something up that makes me wonder like, would this have been funnier for me if I had watched with Dory? I know she would have related a lot with absolutely talking with uh J Lo's um relationship history, like almost out of place, but for for whatever reason, that's kind of the thing that Dory pays attention to with celebrities is who they're married to or involved with. Like that's the first thing they she hears. Um me, I'm like got a an ear for their voices. Like, I like to play the game of guess who the actor is.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

When they're voice acting.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Didn't she talk about People Magazine at one point? What's she talking about People Magazine? I read in People Magazine something about the J-Lo husbands. I know she said at the at the end when she when he when she married Ben Affleck again, she goes, Well, this does not look good, or something like that. Like it was through this is not a good look. Yeah, yeah. Well, and it's it's even funnier because I think even if you're not somebody who pays attention to those things, J Lo's relationship history is oddly in the zeitgeist, in that like most people probably could name at least two of her husbands. And they are people that are like, I don't pay attention to this stuff at all, but it's it was in our faces for a long time. And so it's it hits not only for like I said, somebody that reads People Magazine or is in tune to those things, but to other people as well. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

I agree.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

All right, physical comedy. How well did the how well did they use physical elements in their comedy? Nick, you want to start?

SPEAKER_00 49:09

Uh counting body language and facial gestures and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Three out of five. You know, well used. Just some of the little dances and yeah, the faces she made, like she was reliving those moments and we were living them with her.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Because she used them well. But she didn't exactly like she wasn't pulling a gallagher and smashing watermelons or anything. Or, you know, throwing tied up balloons on the ground and saying, look, Knott's landing, but but she's had some physical elements.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

Wow, I forgot that joke, Knotts Landing. That's hilarious. And that's also that's also a reference that, yeah, but that's also a reference that like who you wouldn't even know, like you wouldn't like unless you knew there was an old show called Knott's Landing. But anyway, I digress.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

Um I watched it on CBS at 7 p.m. There you go. Yeah. 8 o'clock Eastern time. I'm making that up, but sure it was very close.

SPEAKER_01 50:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:14

I gave her a three out of five for physical when when it was called for, when it was necessary, she did a good job. I like how she did the and I don't want to stand up because that'll mess up the the view for you guys, but uh like when she talked about the pole dancers that were over five feet, you know.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

Yeah, they had to like crouch over.

SPEAKER_03 50:32

So there was a few moments, and she didn't need the big stage to carry out those physical, yeah, those physical comedy moments. The facial expression, she's got that down. If she didn't have that, I mean, I would say half of what she said wouldn't be worth it because the facial expressions made everything physical-wise, she had a few things. Uh, like you mentioned two, you could anybody could name two out of uh two of J-Lo's husbands.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Right.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

Like I couldn't mention the dancer that she went like this, you know, made this reference. I remember him, but I don't remember his name. But she the physical comedy that she did do was very appropriate.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

She didn't use a lot of the stage, but she didn't need to. And I will tell you what I did enjoy about her physical comedy or comedic reactions was, you know, we all have energy. Nervous energy has to go somewhere. That's where the pacing comes from. That's where the the hand gestures that are wild comes from. She seemed very confident in her in herself that she didn't do a lot of pacing and a lot of moving. She was able to stand still and deliver and just use those physical moments when needed to enhance the joke or enhance the story. So I I gave her a three out of five. You know, after I explained it, maybe I should have gave her a four, but I I gave her a three. It just didn't warrant a lot of physical.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

Yeah. She's definitely not a physical comedian, um, but she's using things.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

She's 60.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

Excuse me, 59. She's 59, okay? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make I'm not gonna give her the extra year.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

But today she's 60.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Potentially, yeah. So I I gave a three out of five also. And I'll say this is my favorite thing that I think was the most physical, and also put us in that like visualizing the situation is when the husband's getting arrested. And so I could see the way her facial expensive, she said the husband looks back and she's like, you know, like I can't even do the facial expression. Yeah, she's just using her hands and she's like, you know, like sort of like, what? You know, and uh and but I could picture that there's a piece of glass between them, so they can't talk to each other. Can't hear each other, yeah. Right, exactly. And he's mouthing some words and she's mouthing some words, and that's how the story's going, and it makes it that much more funny. And uh, and so I, you know, but that I think she went hard on that that facial expressions, particularly, because it's like you're watching your husband get arrested and you have no idea what is transpiring. You think your husband just got pulled over for speeding and then they're putting him in handcuffs, right? Suddenly he has a family. He's uh he's got a family in Montana, right? Is it Montana? Idaho. It was Idaho, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

Idaho, that's right. Yeah. Idaho. That was that was everything to her. Right.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

Because he told me things that he had not told me, or something like related to that story. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 53:36

But it's the memory, it's the middle-aged woman memory.

SPEAKER_02 53:39

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

We don't have it anymore. It's short-term memory, it goes bye-bye.

SPEAKER_00 53:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought that you said that already, Christine.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

I did not. We're not being recorded visually, right? Just audio. So you can count me too with your fingers.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

I see that now.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

On two hands.

SPEAKER_02 54:07

Oh, okay. We're gonna move on.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

Uh wait, did we get you on the physical, Nick? Did we get you? It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

You forgot.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

I think we all got three. I think we all did remarkable. I think we all did a three on that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:20

Yes, three.

SPEAKER_02 54:21

Um, the next one, I'm gonna let you, Christy, start on the next one because you've already made reference to this. The relatability, did the material resonate with a broad audience? I also think of relatability as did it, you know, did it resonate with you personally? You know? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Well, I did give her a seven, but I think maybe possibly a six, only because when you say broad audience, that's 1821 to 90. There were some things that she said that you could probably relate to maybe her daughter, or something else, you know. Maybe if you were younger, you could relate to her daughter wanting to slap her mom's teeth out or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 55:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:03

But for me, for someone that's Gen X, I gave her a seven out of ten on relatability because the things that she said, oh my gosh, I've been there, I've lived it. And they weren't probably as funny as she made it, but I wish I had laughed or been able to make it as funny as she did. So I gave it a seven.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Excellent. Nick?

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Um, I gave an eight for a lot of the same reasons Krista gave. Um I I agree that a lot of the stuff she said was niche. Like it didn't, but it was something about it, it felt like it could she she would engage and fascinate a broad audience. Like it she was letting us peek into her world in an interesting way. Um so I I gave her an extra one extra point for that.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

Great interest to you.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

I uh I went with a seven on this. I think uh I think that it it is interesting because just like we've we've talked about Nate Bargassi a little bit, and I think part of the reason why we've talked to him a little bit is because he's from Tennessee, she's from Tennessee, so it's a little bit of relatability there. And he um well between the two people I meant.

SPEAKER_00 56:23

So I know, I know.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

I I just chuckled, don't let it destroy. One of the things is like his delivery is very unique, his accent is also unique, and I think that's what makes her somewhat relatable is that she's from Tennessee and she sounds like she's from Tennessee. And because I could say I'm from Tennessee, but I don't sound like I'm from Tennessee. I definitely most people are gonna know that I wasn't born and raised here, right? And um, or at least that I don't have an accent. And so let's not start. Uh so I I I feel like she was, like I said, I feel like she's relatable in that way. Um, in that, you know, you you what you see is what you get. And uh and so I think honestly, I think some people would watch just for the uniqueness of that. Her accent and like listening to her talk is different than listening to other comedians talk. Uh, I do like the fact that she uh and I think some some other comedians have made reference to this. Jim Gaffgins made reference to this, that uh people in the South speak more slowly, that they're just you know, just sort of a calm, kind of slow, lilty kind of way you speak. And she speaks like that. And I think yeah, I think that um you know helps a broader audience, even if you're not uh, you know, uh a person who's 60 years old, a female who's 60 years old, I think you know uh you're still you're still on board.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

So yeah, something I forgot to mention is part of his relatable is because I think everyone knows someone like her, at least in her demographic and relatable.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 58:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

All right, how about innovative techniques? Did the comedian bring something new or unique?

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Christy? I'll start. Oh, okay. I know I know ladies go first and she's a guest. Nope.

SPEAKER_03 58:20

You go first.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

But it's been you two starting each other.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

Age before beauty. That was a dig on myself.

SPEAKER_00 58:30

Oh, okay. I was like, I thought you were saying I was older than you.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

I'm like, oh, what do I do with this situation? Yeah, no, I'm you're younger and more beautiful, so you go right ahead.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Oh, we have to censor that part out. Um so what we I would take. This was probably my lowest score for her as a four out of ten. Just wasn't really anything, you know, groundbreaking, just not that that's a bad thing, so that's why I didn't score super low. Uh didn't punish her for it, but it was below average in terms of in terms of innovation. All right.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

I agree with that. Four I gave her a four out of ten as well. The it wasn't anything groundbreaking. She's good at what she does, but it's not anything unique. Uh so yeah, I gave her a four out of ten as well.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

I went slightly higher and gave a five. Um, you guys did talk me down a little because I think I had a six there. Um, just some fresh ideas. Um, but uh but for the most part I agree with you that uh her, you know, uh there's nothing her material is there's there's other comedians who do the same type of material. They're storytelling comedians, they tell stories about their family, um, things like that. But she had some, I think, some fresh takes on things. So sure. And then the last one that doesn't really have anything to do with her comedy, but uh cinematic quality, just how was the performance filmed and edited? Um I'll go I'll start. I'll start with that. I gave it um I th I thought I liked the way that it looked, but I also put the word traditional next to it. So if you watch any number of uh of of specials uh visually that they're gonna be straight up like two or three cameras, and it's just sort of blocked out and it goes from one camera to the other. So um, you know, it that I think that it's um I I liked it. It was filmed and edited well, especially I've already made reference to the fact that the you know they edited in a way that captured certain facial expressions at the specific times they needed to be captured. Um, but uh, but not anything, you know, out of the out of this world.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:42

So Nick? Would that be a three or a two?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:47

Oh, three. Sorry, I didn't say my score. Yeah, three.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

Yeah, go ahead, Nick.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

Uh Brian talked me down. I'd given another perfect score, five out of five, but now it's a four out of five.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:00

I really liked the the take, what I'm calling the take, you know, the the few times in this particularly one, I don't remember when exactly, but where she just sort of like looked off to the camera that was pre-zoomed in on her, and it was like just well-timed, well executed.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

Like that probably had to be rehearsed, but it didn't feel like it was rehearsed. And then and I don't know if this is traditional or not either, but at the very start, like while everyone's applauding her, walking on stage, um, they did this camera trick where they they had the text like augmented reality, it looked like it was floating above the audience. Oh, it had it had depth and shadow and such that I thought it was pretty cool. Um and it that's the only time they did it, so it wasn't distracting or in the way during the actual performance. So I liked that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:49

Good. I gave it a three out of five. It it was very traditional as far as what I would consider for a Netflix uh special. So it worked, and I do appreciate the details that you described, Nick. I hadn't really caught some of that, but I gave it a three out of five.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Excellent. So now a couple other things. We finished all the uh the the the numbered categories, but how about uh Christy, tell us what your favorite joker bit is in this special.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

You may not want to know this, but I was with a couple girlfriends in my age group recently and telling them about this Netflix special, and I just kind of described because you really can't retell a joke, right? But I was describing how she tells stories and so forth. So I I really started with the the mamma breast because that is a real thing, and for her to say, like, I didn't even think about because you know we all give speeches and we think about, oh, I should have said this or I left this out or whatever. And she's like, I didn't even think about that stuff. I'm wondering how my breast got so fat. What did I need to my mama breast? We all have a mamma that is not wearing the correct bra or whatever. And so I kind of retold that story about that to some girlfriends that would get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:23

So that was really, and that was the shortest, quickest thing that I could think of to kind of describe if they wanted to watch this, what they could relate to that what they would think was funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Yeah. Nick.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:37

Um mine was I'll preamble it because it requires some context. Like the the uniqueness or uncommonness of this perspective was interesting, engaging, and that's why it's my favorite joke or bit. Um it's also probably the clearest in my mind because it it was kind of stark, sort of like the butthole moment you mentioned before. And the times that she talked about prostituting herself for her husband to her husband for 34 years, like like it was just sort of a just a twist on an experience we've all had if we've had a long-term relationship where there's you know financial dynamics involved. It's like, oh, okay. It's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

Um I like also that she uh she she said she they went to I think they I think she said Fiji. They went to Fiji or something, and she's like, I never saw Fiji. Like I just I went down and we did unspeakable things for seven days for seven days, and then she's like, now I gotta get back on the plane and travel 12 hours back to Knoxville, you know. Like anyway, I thought that was funny. Um so my my favorite joke that she talked about was when she was talking about being on the movie set, and she first she's you know was talking about all these great-looking, tiny, tiny people that are standing next to her, and she's very intimidated by that, and just like, uh, like you know, she's like, I realized that uh, you know, Reese Witherspoon's head came up right, you know, right to here, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:12

And uh breasts.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:15

And my yeah, my breast was as as uh as her her head was as big as my breasts, or my breast was as big as her head or whatever, you know. But the the funniest part was when she talked about the food stuff, because she's like, oh good. They're you know, that she said, no, they're required to do it. And a little man would come by and he'd yell empenata, and I'd go, I'd take off running as fast as I could, you know. I was like, I could really, really identify with that. Because if somebody, a little man came by right now and yelled empenata, I might just leave and start running away to get an empanada. So um so I really like that joke. Uh that was that was a really funny one. Um what about the most retellable joke? I know we've already talked about this a little bit in that it's hard to retell the jokes, but I the way I look at this a little bit more is like Sort of what you already said, Christy, which is like retelling the essence of the joke or like the you know, the feeling of that joke. And um, so what do you think?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:09

For me, it wasn't really a joke or a one-line by any means, but it was really just as I would what I mentioned before is if I'm going to entice someone to watch this, what is something about this special that this Netflix special that I'm going to retell to try to get them interested? So I have to stand by my my mamma breasts joke, but I will tell you, I do like what Nick said because that that reminded me of oh, that did have an impact on me at the moment. To me, I do this with my speeches. I have several speeches that I've done that the title for me, I want something that's gonna leave them guessing. I want something that's gonna want them to hear about it. What is she talking about? That doesn't make any sense. I like the name of it, Unspeakable Things, because you don't know really what she's gonna talk about. She did mention a couple times in her special what those unspeakable things were, so it kind of gave reference to that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:10

Uh, but I I think there were several moments that I could probably retell just to try to get people to listen, but not really a joke, so to speak.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you, Nick?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

Uh I mentioned it earlier, and I think it I would it's retellable in part because I think it it summarizes the you know, it summarizes Leanne Morgan, like her style, her how she shows up to be authentic. Um it's concise and the punchline kind of tells the story more concisely. And that's the you know, my hope and prayer for y'all is that you you get what is it, you get someone to to uh give you a meatloaf for you while you're getting off or getting your IUD replaced. So of course I'm butchering it, I'm not retelling it very well right now, but like she she talked, she talked about prayer and y'all, like she's shown her southern her her um Christianity, she's given them goodwill, she's wishing a blessing upon them of sorts. Um it's it's funny, it's a story. Yeah um so I think like to me that that sort of tells the tale that that's the trailer for the yeah the the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

I think for me, uh it has to be the at least the essence of the unspeakable things. Uh I anybody like you said, anybody who's been in a long-term relationship um you know might have this same uh same experience. But one of the reasons why I wanted to say it's the retellable joke is because when I was telling somebody that we were gonna be doing reviewing this, that was the thing that they told me. They said, Oh, yeah, have you seen the because I think I said Leanne Morgan and they said, Oh, the unspeakable things one, and then that was the thing that they said, oh yeah, she talks about you know having to do unspeakable things for you know to her husband, you know, and stuff like that. And um, and so that's part of the reason why I picked that, just because I think um I I also think too, you're right, Christy, that that I'm sad that this is the title of her special because unspeakable things would be a great title for a uh a Toastmaster speech. Probably not referencing this, but it would be for a different reason. But but my my point is that would be great because that would be intriguing. That would be somebody going, Oh, okay, you're getting up in front of us to speak, and the title of your speech is unspeakable things, right? You know, so anyway.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

Yeah, forbidden truth. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:54

So what uh do you guys have totals?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:57

I have a total of 66.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:02

I I have a total of 69.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

You know, I'm sick, I was 68. So Okay, I I think we're right in the same ballpark. I think obviously we there are different things that we did, you know, in different places, but for the most part, that's I think I also think too, it's a that's a good score. That's almost a 70 out of 100. Uh, especially with I'm typically like an easy scorer, but the thing is you gotta think of like a hundred. Is anyone a I mean is there is there a perfect thing out there? Is there a perfect yeah?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:39

I see your hand on that side, Christy. I believe that. Um why do you think why do you think we allowed you to invite yourself?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

It was good. It was good though. Anyway, so that's good. We're all in the same ballpark. I think uh I think that's yeah, within just a few points.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:58

I think that's pretty spot on.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:01

And yeah, and we all had a great time watching it too, so that was awesome. So what else? Uh anything that you want to plug, Christy, before we get off of here? Is there one?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:12

I know you already took I would give some advice to Leanne to improve her special or to improve her next one.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

My my one thing for her is her transitions because I think that there was not good transitions. I think she stopped something and then she started another topic or subject matter that had no connection and she didn't transition them. She just paused and then she started talking about something different. And I think there's a way to connect those. And I have seen some really good comedians do that. So that would be my one thing for her is to just work on those connections or those transitions, great facial expressions, great storyteller.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:55

I liken myself to a storyteller when I do speeches, so I I kind of get that arena and that genre. Uh, but that was the only thing that I would recommend for her uh would be her transitions from one topic to the next.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:10

But as far as plugging, just I always I always promote myself first and I always promote Toastmasters second.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:18

Because we're kind of in the same arena. I coach public speaking, communications, and so forth. But I think Toastmasters is that long-term commitment that people make to improve themselves. And you're never there. This is a lifelong journey to improve.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:38

And I've been doing public speaking for roughly 20 years. But until I came to Toastmasters, I had no idea how much better I could be. And I think that is where that Toastmasters comes in compared to just not being afraid to public speak. I got over that 20 years ago, but I had no idea how much better I could be. Just being comfortable with getting in front of a group is one thing, but being effective is a whole nother ball game. And so that's why I promote Toastmasters as well as myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:12

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We, we uh, I think in throughout this podcast and the other one that we did, I think we we have we we probably mention it every single time on the podcast. It's just part of us. And and because obviously we're we're talking, we're preaching to the choir here between the three of us with the combined uh membership years of Toastmasters. We really believe in what it can do for people. And so that's great. I'm glad that you did that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:39

So it's not the monetary commitment. Toastmasters is a nonprofit, it's very inexpensive. It's that time. Yeah. That time. Will you invest in yourself?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:49

Do so many things for other people. Will you invest time for yourself? I think that's really what we need to get across.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

That it's that incremental improvement too. It's the like you said, it's a long-term thing. So it's like, hey, you know what, you're not gonna learn this all overnight, but you're going to incrementally, slowly improve over time. And at some point you're gonna realize, wow, that's where I was, and here's where I am now. And you and then I at least I have attributed that to my time with Toastmasters. So yeah. Glad that we got to meet you. And uh thank you very much for coming on the podcast with me. And Nick, you want to add anything? I'm glad you got to see me. Me too, man. All right, until next time.